Street Data Pod: Imagining the Next Generation of Education

[RE-RELEASE] Episode 32: Navigating the “Groan Zone” of Pedagogical Transformation with Marlo Bagsik and Nina Finci

Get ready for another re-release! Get to know transformational teacher leaders Marlo Bagsik and Nina Finci in this beautiful conversation and new episode! Co-hosts Shane and Alcine explore with their guests what it means to “choose the margins” of our classrooms as they hear about Marlo and Nina’s development of a districtwide Humanizing instructional framework. Together, they unpack how to create the conditions for belonging as a core domain of Student Agency for students at the margins. And they conclude with a poignant moment of witnessing Marlo’s experience of collaborating with Shane, Sawsan, and Crystal to develop Pedagogies of Voice: Street Data and the Path to Student Agency, the sequel to Street Data which will be on the shelves the first week of August!
 
For Further Learning: 
Pre-order your copy of Pedagogies of Voice: Street Data and the Path to Student Agency today HERE
Watch this powerful video of educators from across the country sharing their thoughts about about student and teacher agency.
Learn more about the Bridge Program, where Nina teaches
Learn more about the Youth Legacy Project by Carlos Hagerdon, where Nina first learned about the Heartifacts task
Visit your local library or bookstore to find some of Marlo Bagsik + Nina Finci’s favorite books that have help them teach and lead from the heart:
Everything We Never Had- Randy Ribay 
On Earth We’re Briefly Gorgeous – Ocean Vuong
The Bluest Eye – Toni Morrison 
All About Love – bell hooks 
Community at Work - Sam Kaner
Antiracism and Universal Design for Learning – Andratesha Fritzgerald

Episode 36: LIVE From FullScale in NOLA: "A Room Full of Geniuses"

In our first-ever LIVE podcast, recorded between Oakland and New Orleans, Shane and Alcine engage in a heartful conversation with Pedagogies of Voice co-author Marlo Bagsik. They excavate stories from how Marlo and Shane became collaborators and co-conspirators to how PoV came to be to what a focus on pedagogies of student voice mean to all three of the humans in dialogue here. Honoring the FullScale (formerly Aurora) Institute's focus on competency-based education, they explore what pedagogies are worthy of being paired with authentic competency-based education so that young people and educators alike feel empowered and excited about their futures. The energy in the room is abuzz as the hosts close with audience questions and from the gut, truthful reflections about why, how, and in what ways to navigate this work in these critical and often-hostile conditions.
 
For Further Learning: 
Visit Corwin Press to your copy of Pedagogies of Voice or Street Data
Visit https://symposium2025.fullscalelearning.org/ to learn more about the FullScale 2025 Symposium where we recorded this episode
To learn more about competency-based education, visit FullScale’s website
Read Dr. Asa Hilliard’s essay, “No Mystery: Closing the Achievement Gap Between Africans and Excellence” in Young, Gifted, and Black: Promoting High Achievement Among African-American StudentsRead Freedom is a Constant Struggle by Angela Davis

[RE-RELEASE] Episode 18: CULT OF PEDAGOGY! “A Seat at the Table” with Jennifer Gonzalez and Amanda Liebel

Get ready for a re-release to kick off season 6! In this delightful dialogue with the wizard behind Cult of Pedagogy, Jennifer Gonzalez, and middle school drama teacher Amanda Liebel, Shane and Alcine walk alongside two brilliant educators to think about service, street data, and pedagogy. You’ll learn the origin story of the magical blog and  podcast called Cult of Pedagogy. We’ll think about what it means to have a “heart of service”, as Amanda characterizes the deep work of teaching as always a reflective practice. We’ll also discuss how Shane, Jamila, and Jennifer came together to create a 9-hour free video series that tracks two teams of teachers as they move through the messiness and richness of the Street Data process! Finally, this episode offers vibrant one-inch windows into a pedagogy of student voice, including:
How to receive difficult street data from students with an open heart
How to take deeper risks in the classroom (for example, to “indigenize our learning spaces”)
Why being a perfectionist works against you as a teacher 
And what it means to “walk alongside students” and listen to what they want
Enjoy this priceless conversation!
 
For Further Learning:
Visit Corwin Press to get your copy of Pedagogies of Voice 
Listen to 7 Teaching Practices that Nurture Student Voice, an episode on Jennifer Gonzales’ Cult of Pedagogy podcast where  Crystal, Marlo, Sawsan, and Shane talk about Pedagogies of Voice, a “seed store” of practices that describes small, replicable moves that educators can use to center student voice, nurture agency, and create space for meaningful learning
Check out Jennifer Gonzales’  Cult of Pedagogy podcast and blog on The Big List of Class Discussion Strategies
Access 9 hours of free professional learning in Street Data Cult of Pedagogy video series

Episode 35: “Critical love is always needed”: Exploring Archeologies of Self with Dr. Yolanda Sealey-Ruiz

Season 5 closes with a tender and inquiry-centered conversation between Alcine, Shane, and the luminous Dr. Yolanda Sealey-Ruiz who shares that “Critical love is a profound and ethical commitment to the communities you’re serving… to the human flourishing of those young people in your classroom.” Dr. Sealey-Ruiz discusses her powerful Archeology of Self framework, quoted in Shane’s forthcoming book Pedagogies of Voice (PoV), making deep and seamless connections to Street Data and PoV. She invites us into the “Warrior Work” of solidarity, explaining how these respective bodies of work speak to each other, specifically how the 10 toxins in Pedagogies of Voice intersect with her racial literacy development framework. And the conversation ends with an emotional conversation about the 2024 election and the need to “name the suffering” as a condition for healing while also “hospicing grief to make room for something new to be birthed.” Don’t miss this final episode, which ties together so many threads of our Season 5!
 
For Further Learning: 
Dr. Yolanda Sealey-Ruiz’s TEDTalk: Truth, Love & Racial Literacy
Read Dr. Yolanda Sealey-Ruiz’s recent titles: 
All About Black Girl Love in Education: bell hooks and Pedagogies of Love, 2024
Advancing Racial Literacies in Teacher Education: Activism for Equity in Digital Spaces. 2021
The Peace Chronicles, 2021
Love from the Vortex & Other Poems, 2020
An Archaeology of Self™ for Our Times
Visit The Acosta Institute
 
 

[RE-RELEASE]: Episode 17: Building “A Place Called Home” with Math Educator Geniuses Crystal Watson and Dr. Dawn Williams

Tune in for another re-release! Shane and Alcine are back with this on-FIRE conversation with Cincinnati math educators Crystal Watson and Dr. Dawn Williams who remind us that “The sun does not ask permission to shine, and neither do I.” These Black women leaders take us on a journey to understanding the type of math pedagogy that will transform and empower future generations of learners. We learn from Dr. Dawn why it’s important for leaders to create a place called home for teachers and, in turn, for students. Crystal and Dawn model a culture of listening to students, always asking, “How will that one child feel…?” and engaging in learning alongside students, all in efforts to affirm to students that the classroom is “your space.” They also teach us how to have a student-centered Data Meeting, how to support teachers to practice active listening- even when it’s uncomfortable! They explain how anxiety specifically with math triggers fight or flight, diminished executive function, and distracting behaviors in the classroom, and how building authentic and trusting relationships can help teachers guide students through that anxiety. Finally, we celebrate the truth that Black educators are “everything” while acknowledging the emotional labor of being a Black woman educational leader.
 
For Further Learning: 
Principles for the Design of Mathematics Curricula: Promoting Language and Content Development with specific Math Language routines classroom teachers can implement
The Memo and Right Within by Minda Harts on overcoming racial trauma and discrimination in the workplace
Choosing to See by Dr. Pamela Seda and Kendall Brown
Crystal Watson is co-author of Shane's upcoming book Pedagogies of Voice: Street Data and the Path to Student Agency! Pre-Order at Corwin
Check out this Webinar about Pedagogies of Voice: Street Data and the Path to Student Agency which features Crystal Watson on 5/21: